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I like the HBO Varys better than the book Varys.  I don't know that there is too much added, perhaps it's simply seeing him on the tv as opposed to my own mind.  Also agree that Syrio is somehow not dead, it was never shown, no birds flying, etc.. I always thought that word got back to Braavos somehow and that maybe Jaqen was sent to work with Arya since Syrio was gone.



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DonalNoyesArm wrote:

Varys is beyond perfect, I do wonder what he has in store for the realm tho.


 I wonder that myself.  Also what Targaryan roots he has or allegiance from.



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Ok. My take:

-Characters that translated seemlessly from page to screen (looks and such nonwithstanding):

Geez, the list is immense! Varys, Tyrion, Arya, Ned, Bran, Sansa, Brienne, Robert, Luwin, Pycelle, Barristan, Dani, Khal Drogo,  Jaimie, Theon, Daenerys, Jon, Robb, Balon, Joffrey, Sandor, Stannis, Davos, Ygritte, Jeor Mormont, Jaqen, Sweetrobin, Pyat Pree, Mirri Maz Dur, Rickon, Sam, Gilly, Craster.

 -Characters I found different in a good way:

  Tywin, Cersei, Osha, Bronn, Yara (yes, I know she's NOT Asha, but what can I say? I like her better than Asha. I find her more realistic and compelling. I wasn't sure at first but she totally won me over.), Melisandre (I like her toned down witchiness, her matter of fact tone, even her accent... Shouldn't like her so much though, since my partner thinks she's the sexiest woman in the series, but well, I understand), Shae (grated me on season 1 but got me on board on season 2), Irri (though I don't like how they offed her offscreen), Xaro, Sallador, Renly, Margaery, Syrio, Jorah, Gendry, Lysa Arryn.

-Characters I found different and slightly less appealing:

Littlefinger (sorry, Macha), Qhorin, Catelyn (she's one of my favourite characters and I think despite the changes she does come accross very well, and I'm sure a lot's got to do with Fairley's outtstanding performance, but I cannot deny there were changes and those changes impoverished her character), Hot Pie, Lemmy, Loras, Dolorous Edd.

-Characters I found different and so much worse it made me want to pull my hair off and cry "why o why o why":  TA-LI-SA Nightingale!!!

 

I'm sure I forgot several of them, particularly on the first 2 categories, but they're sooo many!




-- Edited by Tir Airgid on Friday 24th of August 2012 02:05:09 PM

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I agree with Tir, Margeary is also one of the different but better character.

In the books I always wondered how Margaery managed to come out on top despite everything going awry around her, making her a woman that is very calculating and cunning in the Tv show was great and very insightful to her character.

I am already looking forward to the Cersei Vs Margaery scenes!

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Small lightbulb moment, I'm sure some of you might be well ahead of me on this one, but I just realized Talisa's last name - Maegyr - is a reference to Jeyne's great grandmother Maggy the Frog (Maggy coming from Maegi). Heh, never thought of it while watching the show, only made the connection on my current AFfC re-read. 



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Yeah, I thought that too.

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-- Edited by Tir Airgid on Friday 24th of August 2012 02:38:51 PM

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I am also with Tir on Telisa/Jeyne.  I can't fuss about her enough. bleh



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Tir Airgid you didn't like Dolorous Edd? Why he's dry tone was hilarious fart jokes notwithstanding.

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I heart Edd! He's actually a sketch show comedian over here and he knows how to deliver a line . Love him, I was crying laughing at the fart scene.

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I didn't dislike him, but I didn't like him as much as the book version, which I think it's funnier. Well, a lot of it might have to do with me having a very hard time trying to understand him.



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DonalNoyesArm wrote:

I agree with Tir, Margeary is also one of the different but better character.

In the books I always wondered how Margaery managed to come out on top despite everything going awry around her, making her a woman that is very calculating and cunning in the Tv show was great and very insightful to her character.

I am already looking forward to the Cersei Vs Margaery scenes!


 I've just gotten through Season 1 of the Tudors and started watching Season 2. I can't help anticipating mid season Margaery Tyrell about to get her head cut off by Henry VIII (Or wait, that's actually Steerpike from Gormenghast.)



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Cary Storm wrote:
DonalNoyesArm wrote:

I agree with Tir, Margeary is also one of the different but better character.

In the books I always wondered how Margaery managed to come out on top despite everything going awry around her, making her a woman that is very calculating and cunning in the Tv show was great and very insightful to her character.

I am already looking forward to the Cersei Vs Margaery scenes!


 I've just gotten through Season 1 of the Tudors and started watching Season 2. I can't help anticipating mid season Margaery Tyrell about to get her head cut off by Henry VIII (Or wait, that's actually Steerpike from Gormenghast.)


 Love, love, loved the Tudors ... basically she's playing the same part tho'



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DonalNoyesArm wrote:

I agree with Tir, Margeary is also one of the different but better character.

In the books I always wondered how Margaery managed to come out on top despite everything going awry around her, making her a woman that is very calculating and cunning in the Tv show was great and very insightful to her character.

I am already looking forward to the Cersei Vs Margaery scenes!


 Definitely a war of Estrogen proportions ! Think Margaery will come out on top? Probably. Not much has been

written since

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antagonize the s**t out of Cersei. 



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WildSeed wrote:
DonalNoyesArm wrote:

I agree with Tir, Margeary is also one of the different but better character.

In the books I always wondered how Margaery managed to come out on top despite everything going awry around her, making her a woman that is very calculating and cunning in the Tv show was great and very insightful to her character.

I am already looking forward to the Cersei Vs Margaery scenes!


 Definitely a war of Estrogen proportions ! Think Margaery will come out on top? Probably. Not much has been

written since

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, I want her to

antagonize the s**t out of Cersei. 


 I think Margaery should start raising her husband now without her hands being tied. 



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Margaery has to get past Cersei for now. But yeah, I wonder if hair will be torn out or tolerated

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"War of estrogen proportions" love that, that's brilliant.  Love Tudors, too.



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Margaery has to get past Cersei for now. But yeah, I wonder if hair will be torn out or tolerated

at the moment.


I am sure there will be a lot of fake courtesy and simmering tensions, Oh I can't wait!

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DonalNoyesArm wrote:
WildSeed wrote:

Margaery has to get past Cersei for now. But yeah, I wonder if hair will be torn out or tolerated

at the moment.


 

I am sure there will be a lot of fake courtesy and simmering tensions, Oh I can't wait!


 I fear that Cercei will escape justice somehow thought besides her

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Better than in the book : Arya, Bran, Jaqen, Yoren, Ser Jorah, Sansa, Theon. These actors knocked me out.

Worse than in the book: Pyat Pree (thought he went over the top, hated his vocal delivery), Littlefinger (sometimes don't like his accent or something), Lord Bolton (still trying to decide if I like his portrayal).

Equal to the book in a different way: Yara, Shae, King Robb. These actors won me over in a different way than I expected from the books.

Everybody else lived up to my expectations as described in the book.


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I actually think that TV Shae is worse than book Shae. I know they are building up her character for a bigger shock when the shit hits the fan, but still. She offers me nothing.

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Rygar wrote:

I actually think that TV Shae is worse than book Shae. I know they are building up her character for a bigger shock when the shit hits the fan, but still. She offers me nothing.


 Thank you ! That !



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The girl they got for Roslin should be Shae. From a looks perspective

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Yes fits book Shea much better ... hey you're on a roll Ry !

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I have my moments. I do think that Show Varys is better than Book Varys. Show Yoren is better than Book Yoren. Show Ned is better than Book Ned. Show Robert is better than Book Robert. Show Jaime is better than book Jaime. Ducksauce is better in the book.

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show yoren is so much better than book yoren!

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Tir Airgid wrote:

show yoren is so much better than book yoren!


 Hear, hear!! Loved HBO Yoren, I miss his role.  Him and Jory. no



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this is known as well. Holy Toledo I agree with Tir

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Amsterpaul wrote:

this is known as well. Holy Toledo I agree with Tir


  Don't worry, it's not contagious. biggrin.gif



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I also think that the TV Hot Pie is awesome. Great delivery.

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