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Wielder of the Baratheon BANHAMMER
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Oh we are SO going there! Lets go!



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He's DEAD DEAD DEAD!

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Oh DNA, you have no idea what you missed out on yesterday. I'm actually interested in that theory YvyB mentioned about Rhaegar being on Crackpot Island...sorry I mean Quiet Island. biggrin



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This what Maegor the Cruel, or is that Aerys the Mad King said:

I have a pretty crazy theory that I’d like to share with you, just to get some opinions from those that have read the books. First I will say my theory, then I will give reason to back it up. Here goes: I’m pretty certain that Jaqen H’ghar is Rhaegar Targaryen. Now before you dismiss this theory outright, at least hear my reasons.

When Robert supposedly slew Rhaegar on the Trident, we’re expected to believe that it was actually Rhaegar who was fighting because the look of his armor is described in great detail several times. It could’ve been anyone wearing that armor and his face was hidden by his helm. And it’s already been established in this series that some people have worn the armor of others for various reasons. (Garlan Tyrell wearing Renly’s armor during the battle of blackwater, Rorge wearing the Hound’s dog helm and doing horrible things that made people think that it was Sandor)

When Dany asked Barriston Selmy about Rhaegar, he tells her that his wasn’t much of a fighter as a boy but he loved to read. Then one day, he read something in some old Valyrian scrolls. Nobody knows what it was he read but right after that, he felt that it was his duty to now be a warrior. GRRM wouldn’t go out of his way to include that information if it didn’t have real significance. And the religion if R’hllor and the prince who was promised is tied in with the Targaryens. Maester Aemon makes mention of the prophecy of the Prince Who Was Promised several times and for while, the Aemon and Rhaegar thought that Rhaegar might be him.

After Jaqen changes his face and parts ways with Arya, I thought that maybe that was the last we had seen of him. But in the prologue of A Feast For Crows, we meet a man who refers to himself as the Alchemist. When his facial features are described, it’s the exact face the Jaqen changed into. He offered to give Pate (who gets called the pig boy, which he hates) a golden dragon if he would steal him a copy of a master key to the maester’s citadel. Even Pate wonders why this Alchemist would want the key. He thinks that maybe the Alchemist wants to get his hands on the old Valyrian scrolls that the maesters have locked away. So they make the trade, Pate gets the golden dragon coin, bites into it and drops dead. Later in the book, when Samwell finally makes it to the citadel, he tells one of the archmaesters everything that Maester Aemon told him about Dany and her dragons. In the same room, a young man introduces himself to Sam as Pate, like the pig boy. We obviously know that the real Pate died in the beginning of the book and would never introduce himself as the pig boy because he hated being called that. So obviously Jaqen stole the real Pate’s identity. If he’s not Rhaegar, then why would some faceless man give a shit about old Valyrian scrolls?

Jaqen also believes in the R’hllor. Ans because he’s a faceless man, he changes his face, name, accent, everything. So he could be anyone.

The main reason that got me thinking about Jaqen is that out of all the characters in this series, he’s the only on whose motives are a complete mystery. So if any of you fans took that time to read my whacked out theory, please respond. I would love to hear your thoughts.

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Ser Cary loves this theory!

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Cary Storm wrote:

He's DEAD DEAD DEAD!


 He is as dead as I am.  Which is pretty dead! aww



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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water.  Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.

 

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Yep but iconic figure in a Jeff Buckley style. Melancholic, sad to the bones and in love with the wrong garl . And a fucking musician, a teenage girl trap indeed... Ryan Gosling for Rhaegar , bloody hell !

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GRRM stated that Rhaegar was dead, I believe. He was cremated.

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Jeff Buckley is a drama queen for sure.

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My fav pic of the Prince of Dragonstone

 

  Rhaegar_Targaryen_by_Marygosty.jpg

 



-- Edited by Lyanna Stark on Wednesday 31st of July 2013 09:40:31 AM



-- Edited by Lyanna Stark on Wednesday 31st of July 2013 09:41:06 AM

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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water.  Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.

 

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^ Friggin hot stuff.

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Oh no, I forgot about this thread for a day or so, but saw him again, Mags, it's the vapors, the vapors are coming, Hooooorteeeece, ooops, too late, :faints:


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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water.  Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.

 

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Some great speculation on Rheagar's personality and some questions raised on te choices he made:

funnyfeminist.com/2011/06/24/the-rape-of-lyanna-stark/



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I'm doing a re-read of the books and something significant that jumped out to me in one of Dany's chapters in A Game of Thrones, something I never noticed before, is a comment that Jorah makes to Dany about Rhaegar, within the context of the rape of women:



Across the road, the girl was still crying, her high singsong tongue strange to Dany’s ears. The first man was done with her now, and a
second had taken his place.
“She is a lamb girl,” Quaro said in Dothraki. “She is nothing, Khaleesi. The riders do her honor. The Lamb Men lay with sheep, it is known.”
“It is known,” her handmaid Irri echoed.
“It is known,” agreed Jhogo, astride the tall grey stallion that Drogo had given him. “If her wailing offends your ears, Khaleesi, Jhogo will
bring you her tongue.” He drew his arakh.
“I will not have her harmed,” Dany said. “I claim her. Do as I command you, or Khal Drogo will know the reason why.”
“Ai, Khaleesi,” Jhogo replied, kicking his horse. Quaro and the others followed his lead, the bells in their hair chiming.
“Go with them,” she commanded Ser Jorah.
“As you command.” The knight gave her a curious look. “You are your brother’s sister, in truth.”
“Viserys?” She did not understand.
“No,” he answered. “Rhaegar.” He galloped off.



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I'm sorry, but I thought it was common knowledge Rhaegar is alive. He's a head of a dragon after all. Viserys is the other.

Mr. Storm, I see you are in for one real big disappointment. I'm sure I don't know how you thought that hammer of Robert's did any damage to the most valiant of the knights in the realm.

I'm looking for the forum exit as I'm typing...

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Good job, TW! clap

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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water.  Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.

 

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Lyanna Stark wrote:

Good job, TW! clap


HAHAHA you should NOT encourage this kind of behavior in me, Lady Lyanna. I just think Mr. Storm was too gracious when I took him for a Miss and it is my firm belief that no good deed should go unpunished ;)

As for Rhaegar I think I should check out that Crackpot Island theory. I might fall in love with it! Rhaegar is such a mystery.

I believe that he did a huge sacrifice when he took an active step in trying to find this "Prince that was promised" who could very much be the same Azor Ahai reborn (How many saviours can Westeros/ Essos have after all?!). He did not sit around and waited for their Messiah to pop in and save the world, he went looking. Just like Melisandre. And he renounced his love for books, his passion for music to simply become what he thought he was meant to be himself (though obviously that was not the case).

I like proactive, what can I say.



-- Edited by TormundsWoman on Friday 10th of January 2014 06:38:06 PM

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Mags Giantsbabe wrote:

^ Friggin hot stuff.


 Hot stuff indeed, reminds me of a bartender a woman knew way back when.......before her Jaqen of course!

 



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