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Even if we know GRRM already said he won't be adding new POVs (except for prologues/epilogues), let's dream a bit. Whose POV would you have liked to read? All characters included, alive/dead/undead. 



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Just Edd and Mance. Tormund could be really funny though.



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andrea wrote:

Just Edd and Mance. Tormund could be really funny though.


 I'd kill for a dolorous edd pov. It'd be epic!

A mance one would be good too. I approove!

Gotta muse on this to see if there's anybody else i'd like to see here. hmmm.... later.



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I think an Osha POV is desperately needed now. "I'm going to die????"

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Fine. I'll say it. Hodor. Actually, might be tough to make it a regular POV. But a Hodor prologue could be awesome. No bullshit.


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Cary Storm wrote:

I think an Osha POV is desperately needed now. "I'm going to die????"


 spiderkillhow can I forget about her??? HOW.



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I was *so* sure there would be a Benjen POV in ACoK. Now (in TWOW) would have been a great time for it, same with the Blackfish. Another POV I would have loved is Jojen, before he got served for dinner.

But no matter what GRRM says, we'll definitely get a Dolorous Edd POV, once he's left all alone to rebuild the Nights Watch, him being Azor Ahai and everything.

Hah, I just realized none of the pretenders for the throne had a POV...except Dany. Don't go there GRRM, don't you bloody dare!



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Rickon! I want to see what they're serving on Skagos!

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A Dolorous Edd POV would never work, cause GRRM would be so depressed after writing that chapter he'd commit suicide.
I would have loved a Robb POV! Also a Randyll Tarly one. Margeary Tyrrel and last but not least the High Septon in AFFC.

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Aegon the Conqueror wrote:

A Dolorous Edd POV would never work, cause GRRM would be so depressed after writing that chapter he'd commit suicide.


 Well, let me announce the campaign for a Dolorous Edd POV. Brandon Sanderson isn't getting any younger, you know.



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A Ros POV for sure. From her Ginger Snap.

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I would also like a Lady Merryweather and Bronn. Maybe we can finally start to unravel some of this mess.



-- Edited by Amsterpaul on Monday 19th of November 2012 08:11:39 PM

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Atreyu wrote:

 Well, let me announce the campaign for a Dolorous Edd POV. Brandon Sanderson isn't getting any younger, you know.


  That's just great, at this rate we'll need a back-up for the back-up. 



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Howland Reed ... Wut? I wanna know what went down !

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Oh yes Yvy! I'd forgotten bout him, someone needs to visit the Crannogmen, really wanna see the castle of the neck.

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Isn't Maege Mormont (and who else...Glover?) supposed to be out there looking for Greywater Watch? I do wonder how and where he will show up. Wouldn't it be wonderful is he was somewhere in sight this whole time? spiderkill

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Knowing GRRM the Crannogmen will probably shoot Maege with their poisoned arrows and Howland will only tell hr the story as she lays dying.

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Hah! A la Varys, you mean?
I was thinking about this earlier, realistically I'm not sure it's possible for us to see Greywater Watch, smply because there are no POV characters in the vicinity, not as of ADwD. Maybe TWoW will change that, but somehow I doubt GRRM will ruin the mystery of that place with a description. My guess is that Howland will appear somewhere else. Stannis' camp, perhaps?...neah, might be too early. I think GRRM will drag this as much as he can. Or just come up with Howland and kill him in the next chapter, before he says anything too revelatory.

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If Howland dies, the truth dies with him. GRRM wouldn't dare...or would he?

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Howland Reed is the best idea for a POV i have seen yet.


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Aegon the Conqueror wrote:

If Howland dies, the truth dies with him. GRRM wouldn't dare...or would he?


 Not necessarily. Howland was there, true, but Bran could see it in one of his 'time travels', for example. We can also assume that Benjen knows something too, since GRRM declined at one point to answer why did Benjen join the NW and said that will learn about that later on. I'd even say they hinted at it in S1 as well. 



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Whereabouts in season 1?

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When Ned and Jon say goodbye, and Benjen lingers in the background. Then there's a shot of him looking at the two.

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you are right MAchacachachacha! but where in the 7 hells is Benjen? and how can he tell Jon anything?

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There is a theory that Benjen is waaay up north in The Land of Always Winter. GRRM could save him for a prologue/epilogue chapter but I doubt it. The reveal of his fate has to be linked to a much more bigger moment. My money is on Jon meeting him again. Another choice would be Bran, but I don't find it likely, since it's Benjen and Jon who had a much closer relationship. 



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@Amsterpaul - Of course, zero chances as far as I'm concerned. Made a lengthy post about it in the Coldhands thread a while back.

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Amsterpaul wrote:

Howland Reed is the best idea for a POV i have seen yet.


 Thank you , thank you , once again I thank you !wink

Unfortunately I believe I read somewhere he isn't doing any new ones ... shame....



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YvyB wrote:

Howland Reed ... Wut? I wanna know what went down !


 Absolutely! Give it up, Ser Reed! shoutbox.gif



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GRRM has stated that there will be no new pov's. However how cool would it be to undo this knot in the next book with an obscure character.

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A Jaqen POV would have been great during the time he was interacting with Arya, would have been cool to know his take on things overall. Also, where is he going now etc....

Would LOVE to see Howland Reed's take on the TOJ etc.

And Ghost, want to know what Ghostie thinks. And Summer.

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Howland Reed, great choice, quite a fascinating character , i would add Olenna , love this creepy granny.

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Littlefinger and Jorah.

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You know, I just read the other day that, when asked what POVs he's planning to introduce (this was about ASoS-time) GRRM mentioned Cersei, Yara and near the end of the series...Shireen! Now I know he reconsidered and said there will be no more POVs, but goddammit!



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Macha wrote:

You know, I just read the other day that, when asked what POVs he's planning to introduce (this was about ASoS-time) GRRM mentioned Cersei, Yara and near the end of the series...Shireen! Now I know he reconsidered and said there will be no more POVs, but goddammit!


 This is confirmation for me that Shireen will inherit the Iron Throne and

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I am a big fan of the POV from behind.

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Al Swearengen wrote:

Littlefinger and Jorah.


 I would have loved a Littlefinger POV! Positively thrilled if that had happened. As it is GRRM will never write one for him. When asked he said Littlefinger "knows too much". Which of course made me wonder what other things does that bastard knows.

I agree with YvyB regarding Howland Reed. That would make for a very interesting POV!

Other than that probably Tormund.



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I have a feeling one of the prologues for WOW or ADOS is going to be a flashback POV chapter with Howland at the Tower of Joy.

Oh and I'd like to see a Euron chapter, that creature creeps me out.

 



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Al, that could only happen if Howland becomes an Prologue POV or if Bran sees it in the Prologue throught weirwood warging or Bloodraven. And I would hate all of the above options because we know how Prologue POVs end up!

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TormundsWoman wrote:

Al, that could only happen if Howland becomes an Prologue POV or if Bran sees it in the Prologue throught weirwood warging or Bloodraven. And I would hate all of the above options because we know how Prologue POVs end up!


 Actually that's a good point, Bran probably will be the key to a lot of secrets unfolding.



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Al, don't kill my hopes of ToJ reveal through Howland Reed, man! I still expect Martin to write something, ANYTHING about his whereabouts. I thought with Meera and Jojen beyond the Wall we'll never get it but maybe they return home one day.

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I still like the POV from behind

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TormundsWoman wrote:

Al, don't kill my hopes of ToJ reveal through Howland Reed, man! I still expect Martin to write something, ANYTHING about his whereabouts. I thought with Meera and Jojen beyond the Wall we'll never get it but maybe they return home one day.


 Greywater Watch is too fascinating a keep not to visit. It floats on a swamp for goodness sake freakoutfreakout



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I swear if he doesn't write it I'm liable to send fan upset mail. I don't do hate. But I do pissed!

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Also the POV from below

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I much prefer a bird's eye p.o.v.

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All POV's are good, Rygar! Whatever the position you have on the matter. (As long as you get one)

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Quaithe.  I always wanted more Essos POVs that did not necessarily focus on Daenerys but on other events occuring there.  There's still a missing link to be found with the Asshai side, and I always thought that her method seems much different from Melisandre even though they are supposedly from the same background.  I want to see the ruins of Valyria, or at least something to compensate for the constant reminder of the "no one ever goes there and the people that do disappear" motif.

 

Also I'm a huge fan of the ADWD prologue done by Varamyr Sixskins.  It was the first time I felt that desperation of what's to come in the series. 



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