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Okay, Yvy turned me onto this Canal+/French language show this morning. And I have to say... FREAKY. 

I'm downloading the whole series with subtitles.  



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I'm so pleased I have someone to talk to this about now .... 4 eps. in and I'm still no clearer ... it's good tho'

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I also want to add that the credits are starkly reminiscent of The Walking Dead.

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Sorry gentleman, but as astonishing as it may seem , i didn't watch . Why ? Because i'm very defiant towards french tv show do i didn't even give a try but i've heard a lot of good critics about this one. There's also another french stuff wich seems to be something interesting, "maison close" (it takes place in a brothel during the 19th century) , produced by the same channel.

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Sorry gentleman, but as astonishing as it may seem , i didn't watch . Why ? Because i'm very defiant towards french tv show do i didn't even give a try but i've heard a lot of good critics about this one. There's also another french stuff wich seems to be something interesting, "maison close" (it takes place in a brothel during the 19th century) , produced by the same channel.


 Well, it's our latest guilty pleasure especially since The White Queen is failing to pique us. 



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That little Victor is A CREEPY KID.

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That's a bloody good point Cary.... Have you caught up to me yet? Just watched Ep. 4. What the hell is going on?

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That's a bloody good point Cary.... Have you caught up to me yet? Just watched Ep. 4. What the hell is going on?


 We're watched through episode 6. I can't stop watching it! I said to the OLS... we have to take a break from it. 

I don't want to get to the end yet! 



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So when are you coming over for tea so we can discuss this? :D

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I got Macha downloading it. And now that it looks like Asha is going to try to watch it too.

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I watched the first two episodes of this on youtube. I'm not sure whether I really like it or not, but it's different and intriguing. And that little boy Victor is not particularly creepy so far. I think he's adorable. He always looks like he's ready to burst out laughing.

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mamma mía... watched ep 1 just 5 minutes ago. CREEPY as fuck. Felt scared, awkward and horrible and somehow I liked it, can´t grasp it tho... but something happened at the end or maybe when Victor showed up, that I didn´t like. Weird but I don´t want to hear an explanation and seemed like they were about to give one.  I hope notconfuse.

Idk, the idea is really creepy, uncomfortable... someone would say that that´s all the people who lost someone would want but somehow makes you feel it´s just wrong. Imma keep watching few more episodes.  I fear for a religious thing.

And there´s Portishead music (no Beth singing tho)... I think I heard Mysterons and that´s always really good.



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Yes, exactly Andrea. It seems like exactly what people wish for, and yet it doesn't seem like it's going to go well. I'm planning to watch episodes 3 and 4 this weekend.

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Andi , they never explain ... it just gets more confusing But I love it! I love the music too ...

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Andi , they never explain ... it just gets more confusing But I love it! I love the music too ...


 Well, get used to it, this is only the *first* season.  Although I hope we get significant revelations in Ep 8!



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I like the music. And yes, Yvy, every episode is stranger than the last. Okay, I'm only three in, but still... And yeah, the show went from creepy to freaky in episode 3.

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Too many questions, but they're fun ones.  So yeah, I'll keep watching.  It's a good diversion.



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Although I hope we get significant revelations in Ep 8!

 Is episode 8 the season finale?  And are the episodes airing weekly for Yvy?  I'll wait and watch one a week with you, if so.



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 I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that 

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-- Edited by Cary Storm on Saturday 6th of July 2013 12:30:23 PM

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Thanks so much, Cary. So helpful! teehee Any other observations you'd care to share, or will you wait till we've caught up to you?

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yeah, I wonder about the water too, so many fronts in this thing. Lol and some of that strange french humor, when Julie asked Victor before he "send" the Catwoman cats "Are you hungry?".

Some really good dialogues here and there, between Lena and her father most of all. The scar thing with Julie it´s ok but now that wound in Lena´s back... don´t pop up Alien or I´ll be pissed. I like how they contrast all the resurrection thing (which is very annoying how some of them even think it´s possible) with the rejection these returned trigger on people who loved them once. Lena said: "you don´t exist!"

Oh another creepy thing I forgot, the way they eat, the noises, the gluttony. It´s never in a close up but you can hear all they chew!

Explain to me the cats, still wondering wut the hell. I was a bit sleepy so maybe I lost something. Because it´s funny ye know, the whole Catwoman costume. Meh.

About the cameras... I never watched french tele but if has something to do with films the writers or directors are probably frenching us ye know...the meanings, the whole "surveillance and punishment" thing a la Foucalt? because yes, the use of the cameras is funny. I bet it has  something to do with some hidden symbolic meaning with us as viewers... and shit, please nevermind.

Another crazy thing in that note is the tunnel and I hope is not an analogy because I don´t like analogies. The way that dead and "for just few seconds more" living people meet there. Shit... wut if the people with scars is also dead? Julie and Lena for example... wut if Lena and Camille are really the same person? They drive me nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuts. Should be a connection somewhere.

Ok, I´m on episode 5 now. See ye!!!

 



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 And are the episodes airing weekly for Yvy?  I'll wait and watch one a week with you, if so.


 That is so nice ! Yes I'll be watching 5 tomorrow night ...



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Yes, I've committed to holding up on the last two episodes until you have an opportunity to see them, Yvy :)

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aaaaaaaaaaaand I´ll be the bitch who wont´wait for youuuuuuuu. I´ll watch everything (just 2 left) but I´ll keep my mouth shut or I´ll use spoiler tags. crackers



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aaaaaaaaaaaand I´ll be the bitch who wont´wait for youuuuuuuu. I´ll watch everything (just 2 left) but I´ll keep my mouth shut or I´ll use spoiler tags. crackers


 

Well, now you've given me permission



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Oh I thought this was a movie! Didnt know it was also a show, will check it out.



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There is a movie coming out with a similar premise, Don. I had the same confusion.

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Ok, this is creepy as fuck.


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Am I the only one who finds this cheesy and silly?

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Ok, this is creepy as fuck.


 Bad creepy or... OMG I HAVE TO KEEP WATCHING creepy?  



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Ep5 done ... still in wtf mode !

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Okay, just saw Episode 7 and I have to say the whole thing about 

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Ok, this is creepy as fuck.


 Bad creepy or... OMG I HAVE TO KEEP WATCHING creepy?  


 I was intrigued by the shot of the bus falling, since it reminded me of The Sweet Hereafter. Then I loved the butterfly shot. Then when I saw the girl (Camille? what's her name?) walking home, I thought "Well shit. This is one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen, and it's not even graphic in any way. " I have to finish Ep. 1, last night I fell asleep because I was exhausted, but I think I like it.



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 Both Cary and I commented on what a shock that was ...



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Ry, you're a man after my own heart. But I like the actors they cast, French or not.

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I just don't see what's great about it.

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I'm on ep. 5. It's good, but not "I like it" good. I actually dislike it a lot because it makes me feel *so* uncomfortable watching it. It's too creepy for my taste, but I'll finish it because it's intriguing and....different? And because I like Julie and Victor. Actually, scratch that, Victor creeps me out. Every other character - I pretty much hate, except for the dad...Lena & Camille's dad, he's ok I guess. I loathe Camille and I really dislike the actress playing her. Adele and her boytoy are not interesting at all to me, and the killer is just too much. I can't deal with that tunnel. As maliti said, if it's symbolism, then it's cheapened by the repeated use of it. And enough stabbing, I honestly can't deal with the whole knife in the belly thing.


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So yes, watched the entire thing and kept my mouth shut... ohoh I guess I should keep doing that.

This show reminds me of David Lyinch´s Twin Peaks somehow... like all things french has a lot of literature there, even Borges. What I didn´t like is the cheating. The suspense is held with lies and it´s slow on purpose for the same reason. The screenwriters used every cheap trick to make you watch. Things they knew they would never answer. Like Lena´s scar and some others I don´t remember now. But you know, it´s fine. Yes, the tunnel it´s a symbolism as it was in the movie (this is the movie btw, no idea if they are making a new one) and yes is no good but french often use symbolism so I guess I´m used to it. The swamp is also symbolism for destiny or some shit, the flood is death repeating itself blah blah blah. See? this is what happens with french productions... there´s too much going on, they saturate every little thing with meaning. It´s finally too much and a bit boring.

I did like that tenebrism without enchantment the whole thing have that is so french. And I loved Julie, great actress. And the dad yes Machuska, he´s good and looool also hated Camille but it was a great casting for the character imo. Victor ugh, creepy as fuck and that was also

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Ep. 7 and 8 this made me laugh so hard. 

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literally. God, was that humor or wut?

Best thing for me and this is also a french thing: how they keep a sense of reality all the time, I think that´s what makes the whole thing so creepy and hard to watch but that I really liked.

The end..

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. Liked it.

Still not sure if they stole few chords from this or not.

 

 

 



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Meh. This shouldn't have dragged on for 8 episodes. 5 at most would have been better. Too pretentious, too much unneeded symbolism, too many unanswered questions.

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I'm sorry, but television simply doesn't work that way. This could have been a good novel, and perhaps a decent movie. As a series, it's not bad. It has good acting and a really interesting premise. Aaaand that's about it. Everything else is too much or too little.



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Meh. This shouldn't have dragged on for 8 episodes. 5 at most would have been better. Too pretentious, too much unneeded symbolism, too many unanswered questions.

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I'm sorry, but television simply doesn't work that way. This could have been a good novel, and perhaps a decent movie. As a series, it's not bad. It has good acting and a really interesting premise. Aaaand that's about it. Everything else is too much or too little.


 It's French. 85% of French cinema I have ever seen is this way. Lots of dangling threads, lots of symbolism, serious lack of resolution. Of course, I am sure that Season 2 will resolve some of this. Plus explain 

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Wait, there's a second series? eyeroll


Nevermind the damn flood, please explain to me

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Wait, there's a second series? eyeroll


Nevermind the damn flood, please explain to me

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Also, why wasn't any episode centered on...what's her name? The dead wife.


I can't remember the dead wife's name.  I don't think she's important enough. Just a mean woman.  

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Also, why wasn't any episode centered on...what's her name? The dead wife.


 Thought the same when Cary said there´s a second season but maybe as Cary said, they will answer all that shit BUT I guess that means they writers will keep on fooling us with cheap tricks and more unsolved plots.

The dead wife is another symbolims for me... all cynicism and bitterness... like many alive people I´m sure we know.



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